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Wednesday, November 24, 2010

A Doggie Dilemma, We Need Your Advice

There is a problem with a dog in my neighborhood.  This dog has been beaten by his people on more than one occasion that I have seen.  He wears a very large & powerful shock collar and I have seen him dropped to the ground after being zapped.  They walk him off leash & when he goes too far they just shock him or beat him.  Currently he is tied outside without shelter in 32 degree weather & all of this breaks my heart.

Here is the view of him today from my window.


Here's my problem.  This dog is a pit-bull.  Here in Oakland County, Michigan we have BSL or Breed Specific Legislation.  If I call the authorites this dog will be destroyed.  I sit and watch this poor dog being abused feeling like there is no way I can help him.

Talking to the owners is not an option.  I have tried and been cursed out and had them threaten harm to Oskar, these are not reasonable or responsible people.

Look at how cute he is.  The day this picture was taken he was able to go into the garage for some shelter.  Does anyone have any advice for me?  It just seems like a lose-lose situation to me, any input is appreciated.

45 comments:

Mad Red Hare said...

Wow! That's a tough one. He is adorable. Another breed that gets a bum wrap. Why these dogs continue to love the 2-leggeds who abuse them is beyond my comprehension. He deserves so much better. Short of dog-napping him, I don't know what to suggest. Witness protection program for dogs perhaps!

wildcatwoodscats said...

Your area must have a ASPCA - the dog is not doing any harm it is the owners. Even with the legistlation on pit bulls this is still animal cruelty. I would contact an ASPCA and ind out the facts without telling them the address of the dog and then see what can be done. I am sure they can do something. Good luck and thanks for caring.

Kea said...

Dog-napping might be the only way. Is there a pit-bull rescue in your area? Here in Ontario (Canada) we have the same sort of legislation, but there IS an underground pit bull rescue that sneaks them out-of-province and into loving homes when possible. Of course, you can't just steal their dog....even though they don't deserve to have the poor thing.

I almost think calling the authorities WOULD be better than letting the dog suffer indefinitely. Because what else will it have in its life but abuse? That's no life at all.

wildcatwoodscats said...

Found this rescue in MI http://www.thebusterfoundation.rescuegroups.org/ - worth a call.

Macho (And Nicole!) said...

This is awful! Macho and I also live in Oakland County in Michigan! Maybe we are neighbors!

Anyway, are you sure that they will destroy him if he is taken away? I haven't heard about this before, so I am curious. Does this even happen if you called a shelter about the dog? Poor guy, I can't imagine treating an animal this way. Does he seem aggressive at all? I would be really surprised if they would euthanize a dog just because of the breed. Maybe you could call and just give the specifics of the situation without giving away where the dog lives and ask what would happen to him if rescued?

Aunt of 14 said...

I wonder if there is another county nearby that does not have that law, could they come in and take the pitbull with this countys permission?

Is there an organization that would be able to come in anyway, like a rescue organization?

On the other hand... like you said, its a lose-lose situation. I hate hate hate to be the one saying this, but would he be better off put to sleep than live the way he is living? Oh that makes me cringe.

Random Felines said...

Here's the problem with dog-napping: they may blame you; and they can just go out and get another dog. I would contact your local humane society or ASPCA and find out exactly what happens to pitts that come in from abuse cases. Sometimes they have rescue contacts. If not, maybe try searching for a rescue that might be willing to take him and then contact the Humane Society/ASPCA with his information and the information of the rescue. The best way you can help this poor boy is to make sure his owners get in trouble for the way they are treating him. And if you have pictures, make sure you provide them to the agency that comes out.
Good luck!!

PaigeandSimba said...

Hi Pam,
It just so happens that this same sort of thing was happening next door to me earlier this year. They had a Jack Russell Terrior with a Bark Shock Collar. They would put it outside in 113 degree+ weather and if he barked for help, he would get zapped. We tried everything. This dog was in awful condition. I prayed and prayed that God would find a way for me to help him. One day, the JRT escaped, and when I was outside pooperscooping, I saw him out beyond my house in the wildlife reserve... I grabbed my jar of peanut butter (for emergencies... like if Simba ever got away) and lured the dog into my yard, and first thing I did was through away the shock collar (in the dumpster...luckily it was a Monday so the truck was gonna be there any minute) and put on my emergency collar and leash on him (we get so many lost dogs around here, so I keep a spare right beside the back door). I fed him, gave him water, and bathed him. The water was black by the time I was done batheing him. I let him rest, and then I called a couple friends to ask for advice. Much to my dismay, I ended up taking him back over to their house. They didn't even ask about the shock collar. I talked to them, nicely, about my method of dog training and that I would be more than happy to spend time with their dog for free so it would be more managable instead of being trapped outside. They said that they would try their best and call on my if they need me. Well, 2 weeks went by and the dog got out and lets just say it was at night and the coyotes found breakfast. I was very upset when I found this out, of course, there is a small chance that the JRT ran away and found a new home (its not like I found his leftovers or somehting... just we have a pack of 13 males and 4 female coyotes beyond our house and the odds of a small dogs surviving is slim). My neighbors, to this day won't even look at me. They act like it was me who took him and turned him into a rescue or someething. Makes me upset... I do regret giving him back to them, but I did the best I could for him. Sorry this story has a sad ending... the good part is, is that maybe yours can have a happy ending. Just pray, and continue to think about ways you can help. Even if it is just setting him free from the chain he is on in the cold weather.
Best of luck,

Paige

PaigeandSimba said...

Hi Pam,
It just so happens that this same sort of thing was happening next door to me earlier this year. They had a Jack Russell Terrior with a Bark Shock Collar. They would put it outside in 113 degree+ weather and if he barked for help, he would get zapped. We tried everything. This dog was in awful condition. I prayed and prayed that God would find a way for me to help him. One day, the JRT escaped, and when I was outside pooperscooping, I saw him out beyond my house in the wildlife reserve... I grabbed my jar of peanut butter (for emergencies... like if Simba ever got away) and lured the dog into my yard, and first thing I did was through away the shock collar (in the dumpster...luckily it was a Monday so the truck was gonna be there any minute) and put on my emergency collar and leash on him (we get so many lost dogs around here, so I keep a spare right beside the back door). I fed him, gave him water, and bathed him. The water was black by the time I was done batheing him. I let him rest, and then I called a couple friends to ask for advice. Much to my dismay, I ended up taking him back over to their house. They didn't even ask about the shock collar. I talked to them, nicely, about my method of dog training and that I would be more than happy to spend time with their dog for free so it would be more managable instead of being trapped outside. They said that they would try their best and call on my if they need me. Well, 2 weeks went by and the dog got out and lets just say it was at night and the coyotes found breakfast. I was very upset when I found this out, of course, there is a small chance that the JRT ran away and found a new home (its not like I found his leftovers or somehting... just we have a pack of 13 males and 4 female coyotes beyond our house and the odds of a small dogs surviving is slim). My neighbors, to this day won't even look at me. They act like it was me who took him and turned him into a rescue or someething. Makes me upset... I do regret giving him back to them, but I did the best I could for him. Sorry this story has a sad ending... the good part is, is that maybe yours can have a happy ending. Just pray, and continue to think about ways you can help. Even if it is just setting him free from the chain he is on in the cold weather.
Best of luck,

Paige

I Am HoneyBuzz said...

I think it would be best to contact a rescue group like someone else suggested. There are also several groups that strictly aid chained animals. They might be of assistance as well. Of course, if you ever see the pup 'free', I'd grab him and run. Just sayin'.

What a horrible situation! People are disgusting beings!

Maureen & HB

Brian said...

Spay and neuter the owners!

Ettel, Charlie Poodle, and Emma Pitty said...

I'm voting for finding a rescue organization that will take him and get him out of BSL country. You might want to call the AC and ask if they can take a pit bull from an abuse case and hand it over to the rescue - once/if you find out they'll take him. That seems like the winningest solution. I hope stupid bureaucracy doesn't get in the way. Also - do NOT tell the AC where the dog is located until you get the OK for them to hand him off to an available rescue, otherwise they'll probably euthanize him, though to be perfectly honest, if the alternative is the life he's living now, it might not be the worst option, if it's his only other option, and I hate myself for saying that.

Macho (And Nicole!) said...

Pam-

I just reached out to a few cops that I know in the metro Detroit area. I'm not sure what city you live in, but they said that the only cities that have Pit Bull bans are Waterford, Pontiac, and Sylvan Lake. If you live in one of those cities, they would take the dog and most likely euthanize him since the owners have him illegally. If you live in one of those cities, they recommend contacting the animal control of Oakland County- http://www.oakgov.com/petadoption/animal_control/

If you don't live in one of those cities, the dog would have to be removed by court order. If it does get removed, there is still a chance it will be euthanized if it is aggressive. But depending on the dog's personality, it will either be euthanized or put up for adoption.

I just feel so bad for this dog, and if I live close enough, I wanted to try to help! I'm not sure if that information helps at all, but if you don't live in any of those three cities, I think that is decent news. I just have no idea how long a court order would take, but I'm also not sure if this is similar procedure to rescue any dog that is being abused. I also had someone ask a family member that just retired from the Oakland County police force, and if his advice is anything different from what I said above, I will let you know.

Max the Quilt Cat said...
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Max the Quilt Cat said...

Yes, a rescue group sounds like a place to start. Maybe they can give you some information about your area..

Also, I agree with Brian's suggestion.

Max

Team Beaglebratz said...

I agree with others - a rescue group is best - preferably a Pitt Bull rescue - they should know how to respond in this situation.
Mom Beaglebratz

Caren Gittleman said...

Since you are in Michigan (Oakland County, like me) PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE contact Karen Workman from The Oakland Press.
She has a blog called "The Dog Blog" AND she is a reporter for the Oakland Press.
if you do not mind I am going to email her the link from your blog.
She is a HUGE, HUGE, HUGE pit bull advocate (her dog is part pit bull)....
I am going to email her this link immediately....
also...go to www.oakpress.com and look up The Dog Blog (or it is also one of the blogs I follow on my blogroll)
You can email me if you need anything else!
I am contacting her NOW!
xoxoxo

Frankie Furter said...

Ok... This is Frankie's MOM speaking... NOT Frankie. I know that I will get HATE MAIL and COMMENTS from this position.. Direct them at ME... Not Frankie.
That said.. I am an ANIMAL LOVER. I can not stand to have what you are looking at. I would love to SHOOT the PEOPLE and set the innocent dog free.
Since you have a BSL in your area you are going to have to make a tough decision.
You can choose to just ignore this terrible situation. OR..
You can take this stance.. it is the one that I would take...
Call and have the dog rescued from the abuse. Yes, they will put the dog down.. butt like everyone who has ever taken their beloved dog or cat for their final trip to the vet KNOW... You do that because you LOVE the animal and will not allow him or her to ever suffer. THAT dog is suffering. Sweet Release.
If I were a prisoner in a cruel situation... I would want SOMEONE to show me some Swift Mercy.. Sweet Release. It is the greatest of all LOVE. Sweet Swift Release.

The Sprollies 'n' Border Collies said...

It's terrible that these owners can't look after their own dog :(

It really is a tricky situation.

BTW Thanks so much for the Christmas card - got it in the post this morning! Love it!

Caren Gittleman said...

Hi Pam,
Yvonne Divita from Blog Paws said you could also contact Rescue Ink (I posted your blog on my profile page on Facebook, I posted it on The Oakland Press's Facebook page, the web editor's page, and I tweeted it) Please let me know what happens.
I have mentioned to you before that I am also in Oakland County, In Farmington Hills...if I can help further please contact me! Also...would love to meet you one day!
My blog is "housed" by the Oakland Press........

Sydney_bitless said...

If the alternative is the dog being abused every day it might be worth risking it being euthanized. At least that would be humane. I would call authorities without giving them the address and ask what is to be done.

Kari in WeHo said...

Is there a rescue group you can call?

Kari
http://dogisgodinreverse.com/

CindyLu's Muse said...

Personally, I would check first with pit bull rescue groups - not only do they place top priority on pit bulls, those working within the groups are usually extremely knowledgeable about those issues.

That breaks my heart, it must be so hard for you to see him every day. Good luck! And best wishes for that innocent dog.

Dennis the Vizsla said...

Lots of good advice here already. I hope you can find a rescue group to help. These BSL laws are idiotic. If they really want to help, they should mandate training for the owners before they're allowed to have an animal.

rescuedinsanity.com said...

I agree with the others, rescue groups are the best place to start. They will have some good advice anyway.

Please keep us updated on this situation. I'm really hoping it has a happy ending.

Pepsi Bum said...

I agree with all the others, contact rescue groups (pit bull rescues).

I really don't understand how the BSL laws came about, it is soooo redundant. How about banning irresponsible cruel human beings, huh?

I hope you save the poor dog soon! Keeping my paws crossed that you'd be able to get him out of the evil clutches of those a$$h0les.

Woofs,
Pepsi

Santa, Minnie and Christmas said...

Sorry we can't help much. Wish you all the best in helping that poor doggie. We hope that he gets rescued soon.

Deborah said...

OMD< that is aweful. You are in a pickle. Please let us know how it works out. I would like to say, take him and put him in a rescue shelter but that's not legal. But my friend did that...took the poor dog that was beaten and left outside...same situation and the owners never missed her. Very sad story. I hope it works out and maybe there is a rescue in your area and you wouldn't even have to leave your name.
Happy Thanksgiving to you.
Deborah

bitt said...

I would talk to a rescue that is out of the area. Hopefully they can seize him but also get him rescued to another location. I am so glad someone like you cares.

Bruce said...

There might be a big dog no-kill shelter near you. That would be your best bet, to call them. I personally think that Euthanasia is better than a life of torture. But, you have to live next to these people so be very careful what you decide to do.
your cat pal,
Bruce

meowmeowmans said...

Oh, that is just terrible! I agree with many of the comments above ... a rescue group in Michigan may be the place to start.

Hilary said...

Too bad you can't follow Brian's advice. That is what they deserve! I think trying to find a rescue group is a great idea.

Mango said...

I agree that this is animal cruelty regardless of the breed legislation. As for him being put down if he is taken from his owners. I have to agree with the reader who said that a journey over the rainbow bridge would be preferable to the fate he is suffering now.

When our dogs are in pain with no way out, we help them across the bridge, right? I loath breed specific laws and wish with all my heart for a good home for this wee pup, but I also think you need to contact the authorities and have him removed from the home if at all possible.

Mango Momma

K-9 Katastrophe said...

Dear Pam, I am so sorry you have to go through this. I would contact serveral rescue groups asking if they can help and if they can't then call the police or something. Poor innocent dog. I agree with Frankies comment. I guess it is like that quote that says give me liberty or give me death. I think it would be better for him to be safe in the arms of God rather than suffering. Please let me know how it works out. I am going to pray for a miracle. Please know that you are not alone. Kepp a close eye on Oskar too, these people sound odd.

Kim

beat said...

If the alternative is the dog being abused every day it might be worth risking it being euthanized. At least that would be humane. I would call authorities without giving them the address and ask what is to be done. hmm... I think so.

Marc Bachelet
aboutdogsandpets.com

Caren Gittleman said...

Hi Pam!
I am still wondering if you read the comments I left.

The names I have given are individuals who work for The Oakland Press....one of them has a dog blog.

I have also contacted them personally but am thinking they may be off for the Thanksgiving holiday....please contact them because I am nearly certain they can be of some type of help.

Would someone please let me know if my comments are being read/seen?

Thanks! (this is approx the 3rd I have left)

Snoop&Emily said...

wow, i just read your story and i'm getting tears in my eyes. we don't have something like this BSL in germany and we can just call the animal-help and they do everything they can for dogs like him! i hope you'll find a solution to help him. he deserves so much better! and shame on his owners!

ps: sorry for not hopping by the last month, but we were very busy!

xx
snoopundemily.blogspot.com

Snoop&Emily said...

and please let us all know how everything turns out!!!!

Karen Workman said...

I want to correct thing about your post — Oakland County does not have breed specific legislation banning pit bulls.

Your individual community may or may not, however. Waterford Township does have BSL, and I think Lake Angelus does as well. I cannot think of any other individual communities right now that do, however.

Regardless of where you live, you can contact Oakland County Animal Control about this issue. It's an organization, part of the county government, serving all of Oakland County and it operates a no-kill shelter, the Oakland Pet Adoption Center. If they cannot adopt out a pit bull directly, they'll place it with a rescue.

I've been to the shelter recently and can confirm that pit bulls are being housed there. I was told by a staffer that some are adopted out, and based on temperament, others are placed with rescues.

I'd try contacting them about this. They have the authority to remove this dog if them deem it fit. They should be alerted to the abuse. The phone number is 248-391-4102. Tell them you have a complaint of cruelty you'd like investigated. Reporting the abuse to Oakland County does not mean the dog will be euthanized.

Also, even in communities like Waterford Township that do have BSL, if a person is found to be owning a pit bull in the township, they are generally given a short period of time to find the dog a new home. If they do not comply, then the dog may be picked up by authorities.

I hope this helps!

Caren Gittleman said...

@Karen Workman...thanks a MILLION for responding! I knew YOU would know what to do! :)

Karen Workman said...

One last thing: If these people have threatened to harm you or your pet, you have grounds to file a police report against them.

Don't wait for something to actually happen.

Some people misunderstand how a shock collar ought to be used. It is not necessarily considered abuse, though. Personally, I think any of use of a shock collar is abusive, but that's my opinion and not the law.

If you have witnessed them physically beating the dog, though, that shows that they are indeed aggressive, dangerous people.

It's not a matter of just helping the dog, but protecting yourself as well. Someone willing to hurt an animal is likely to hurt a person as well. I encourage you to contact the authorities, report the threats that have been made against your safety and the cruelty you have witnessed firsthand.

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